tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post2879115394941567292..comments2024-03-27T09:33:37.646+01:00Comments on Omnium: Just a questionSean Jeatinghttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08978285783271305489noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-3002504392786427632010-07-27T00:29:13.954+02:002010-07-27T00:29:13.954+02:00Claude,
ahem ... why did you once again delete? I ...<b>Claude</b>,<br />ahem ... why did you once again delete? I asked uncounted times. And would I therefore delete this? :)<br /><br /><b>Ruth</b>,<br />same with me. Very often. :)<br />And yes: Bertus put his point(s) very well.Sean Jeatinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978285783271305489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-21309711510551977722010-07-26T23:34:50.540+02:002010-07-26T23:34:50.540+02:00"To decide about the extremity, the malice an..."To decide about the extremity, the malice and the criminality of a suspect one needs at least two parties to look at the case from different angles, for a third party to reach a verdict which considers all possible aspects of a case"<br />I often find someone else voices my thoughts better than I could, and this is one of those times :)Ruthhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04899310347456804555noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-37017149068060896002010-07-26T22:28:47.793+02:002010-07-26T22:28:47.793+02:00I had for "I has"...Of course.I had for "I has"...Of course.Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-56111897784473575792010-07-26T22:25:56.411+02:002010-07-26T22:25:56.411+02:00Sorry for deleting. But I had forgotten I has alre...Sorry for deleting. But I had forgotten I has already introduced you to my brother (Noble Criminals: March 20-2008). He never needed defending. As a lawyer and as a soldier.Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-17564626226904698372010-07-26T17:30:15.371+02:002010-07-26T17:30:15.371+02:00This comment has been removed by the author.Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-61003769161510193762010-07-26T17:24:43.251+02:002010-07-26T17:24:43.251+02:00Claude,
thanks for that. Much appreciated.
No, I ...<b>Claude</b>,<br />thanks for that. Much appreciated.<br /><br />No, I do have no special case in mind. It is - as the title goes - just a question.Sean Jeatinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978285783271305489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-25512166524655348252010-07-26T17:14:33.956+02:002010-07-26T17:14:33.956+02:00I might be falling into a trap here. Do you have a...I might be falling into a trap here. Do you have a special case in mind?<br /><br />I think that Bertus has answered your question. The defender's responsibilities is to present the full circomstances, the other side of the story. It's not to excuse a crime that the accused confesses to and brags about. Even the Nazis tried to escape punishment by blaming the one who gave the order, not themselves for obeying it.<br /><br />I don't see any sane person, in a court of law, acting as you describe. In that case, the lawyer would plead insanity, and the criminal would be confined to a psychiatric institution.<br /><br />Now if you wish here to discuss of war crimes, where nobody has yet been in a court of law, having to defend himself, there is no lawyer in that picture. Only a prosecuting public. Your question, at this particular moment, has no raison d'être.<br /><br />I was a very young girl when my brother terminated the Civil Law studies which had been interrupted by his participation in WW2. I not only questioned him relentlessly, but I read his law books laying around. And I was given the important job of counting the enormous number of words required for his thesis. When he finally opened his law office, he would joke that I could become his assistant. "I don't like quarrels," I said. "Si vis pacem, para bellum," he answered.Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-48558404699070662112010-07-26T15:16:06.714+02:002010-07-26T15:16:06.714+02:00Bertus,
good points! Thank you.
As long as A defe...<b>Bertus</b>,<br />good points! Thank you.<br /><br />As long as <i>A defender who goes beyond his responsibilities as a lawyer can be prosecuted, fined or punished</i>, consequently he can be considered an evil criminal, though, can't he? :)<br /><br /><b>Claude</b>,<br />the first paragraph lets the corners of my mouth start an expdion to the ear-lobes whenever I read it. Thank you!<br /><br />As for the second: That is why I am against death penalties.<br /><br />As for the third:<br />What, however when someone unenforced (!) confesses a horrible crime, laughs at the victims and their affiliated and says he'd do it again?Sean Jeatinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08978285783271305489noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-19794590989614073962010-07-24T22:43:46.886+02:002010-07-24T22:43:46.886+02:00Of course, not! And I won't say why because no...Of course, not! And I won't say why because not one of the lawyers has asked me to defend him/her...yet. Hence my unwritten (but brilliant) chapter on legal and moral rights.<br /><br />But I'll tell you one thing. Better ten criminals walking free than one innocent personn condemned and hung due to mispresentation.<br /><br />Et voilà! Vous avez une autre question, Monsieur Jeating? :)))))Claudehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04307495672130972111noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5507673653895812509.post-91908534482758381732010-07-24T03:05:29.915+02:002010-07-24T03:05:29.915+02:00No.
To decide about the extremity, the malice and...No.<br /><br />To decide about the extremity, the malice and the criminality of a suspect one needs at least two parties to look at the case from different angles, for a third party to reach a verdict which considers all possible aspects of a case. <br /><br />It is up to that third party to decide if any positive aspect is important enough to be considered, according to law.<br /><br />A defender who goes beyond his responsibilities as a lawyer can be prosecuted, fined or punished.<br /><br />Certainly, the fact that not all lawyers are nice people doesn´t really add to the perfection of the system. But then, no system is perfect and any declared perfect system should be mistrusted.<br /><br />BertusVLRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16773649615548032716noreply@blogger.com