The day before reading this and this
I had read the following about
Efficacy of the Death Penalty
Thucydides 3.45.3-7 (speech of Diodotus on the fate of the Mytilenaeans; tr. C.F. Smith):
[3] All men are by nature
prone to err, both in private and in public life, and
there is no law which will prevent them; in fact,
mankind has run the whole gamut of penalties,
making them more and more severe, in the hope
that the transgressions of evil-doers might be abated.
It is probable that in ancient times the penalties
prescribed for the greatest offences were relatively
mild, but as transgressions still occurred, in course of
time the penalty was seldom less than death. But
even so there is still transgression.
[4] Either, then,
some terror more dreadful than death must be
discovered, or we must own that death at least is no
prevention. Nay, men are lured into hazardous
enterprises by the constraint of poverty, which
makes them bold, by the insolence and pride of
affluence, which makes them greedy, and by the
various passions engendered in the other conditions
of human life as these are severally mastered by
some mighty and irresistible impulse.
[5] Then, too,
Hope and Desire are everywhere; Desire leads, Hope
attends; Desire contrives the plan, Hope suggests
the facility of fortune; the two passions are most
baneful, and being unseen phantoms prevail over
seen dangers.
[6] Besides these, fortune contributes in
no less degree to urge men on; for she sometimes
presents herself unexpectedly and thus tempts men
to take risks even when their resources are inadequate, and states even more than men, inasmuch as
the stake is the greatest of all — their own freedom
or empire over others — and the individual, when
supported by the whole people, unreasonably overestimates his own strength.
[7]
In a word, it is impossible, and a mark of extreme simplicity, for
anyone to imagine that when human nature is wholeheartedly bent on any
undertaking it can be diverted
from it by rigorous laws or by any other terror.
Thucydides (ca. 490 – 429 BCE)
with thanks to Michael Gilleland at Laudator Temporis Acti
Re: "some terror more dreadful than death must be discovered" I can think of many. It is a very easy discovery to make. And many are not obviously extreme - unfortunately more than 800,000 people every year act fatally on their decision that their everyday life is a worse terror than death. Not a pleasant comment, but perhaps a relevant one.
ReplyDeleteCertainly no whataboutism, but relevant a comment. It leaves open, though, what you think about the Efficacy of the Death Penalty.
DeleteI can think of many who deserve it, but there are also many who have been put to death unjustly, so I don't support it (although in some obvious cases where there is clearly no doubt of guilt of horrors I would be very tempted to). As for is it an effective deterrent? - which I suppose is all you asked - I don't know.
ReplyDeleteAs if we had almost identical thought patterns. Fascinating.
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